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Postby Spawn_Of_Anubis » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:13 pm

Hmmm...
...didn't say my plan was perfect but then again we will never be able to tell until we test it.
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Postby Phoenix » Mon May 16, 2005 6:55 am

we've got some problems, but hyperdrives maybe are possible ... maybe somebody remembers the explonation of how a warpgenerator works? ... if yes ... then think 'bout it :) its bit same
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Postby Spawn_Of_Anubis » Tue May 24, 2005 2:35 pm

Is that really possible to produce?!?!
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Postby Phoenix » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:20 pm

on paper yes ... but now we have only to build a spacestation which would be able to assemble spacecrafts :)
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Postby Liability » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:57 pm

who that would be so cool to that built!!! :D
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More questions than answers it seems

Postby mopedmat » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:32 pm

A topic I have always wondered about in real life. I am a firm believer that it is possible though I have no idea how. How scientific of me I know but through out history things have been unthinkable by the best reasoning of the times, right up to the point where they weren’t. My understanding of it is that there are three current schools of thought on FTL travel at this point; a Warp Drive (Alcubierre metric/drive), Hyperspace Drive and Worm Holes. Hyper drive as I understand it would allow a poo to enter a dimension other than the 4 we are normally aware. In this realm either the relations of distance compared to our space are different or we aren’t limited by the speed of light. I must admit though of the three this I probably know the least about this. As such if anyone has any info on it I would much appreciate a link or twelve :D . The theory of warp drive kind of scares me. The only RL theories I can find on it wants to use gravity to warp the space around the ship, shrinking it in front of the ship and expand it behind the ship. The ship never moves and the universe moves around the ship. I know NASA has thought of this but I am left with the nagging question of what will such a gravity field do to the planets it passes by? Even if you don’t pass relatively close to system gravity is the longest reaching of the four forces. Then again I am not totally convinced that gravity can “warp” space. I think I am going to have to agree with Tesla on this one. Perhaps Schrodinger can help me with understanding why exactly we think we can’t achieve super luminal speed and why we think that gravity warps space. I have worked the equation with (v/c)^2 relating the mass gain and energy getting imaginary numbers and the infinite energy required but I am unclear as to the origin of this equation. I also know that Einstein’s theory of gravity help with mercury’s orbit but I don’t understand exactly what it clears up that Fg=M1*M2*G/d^2 (forgive my lack of subscript knowledge.) As far as hyper drive do we have any idea about these other five to seven dimensions other than the fact that they make it easier for us? Thanks in advance.
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Postby Phoenix » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:42 pm

again ... a wormhole is established around the object which is traveling thru time and space ... :)
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Postby Spawn_Of_Anubis » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:13 pm

Phoenix wrote:again ... a wormhole is established around the object which is traveling thru time and space ... :)


That depends on which theories you belive in really! ;)
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Postby Phoenix » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:41 am

i'm working on a practical issue.. :) i think that in the worst case such an engine will be possible to build in 10 years ...
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Postby Spawn_Of_Anubis » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:47 pm

Phoenix wrote:i'm working on a practical issue.. :) i think that in the worst case such an engine will be possible to build in 10 years ...


Ok then I'll talk to the government and rally an army of reasearchers to help out! :lol:
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Postby jkathrynb » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:48 pm

Spawn_Of_Anubis wrote:Sorry, What about slowing time around you then going at light speed. It would seem faster to the rest of the universe but you would only be going light speed. ;)


there's a thought, by manipulating both time and space, you could theoretically travel great distances instantaneously (or near enough to make it seem instant)
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Postby seffy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:49 pm

Can you imagine the size of the ship? Not only would you have a FTL engine, but a time displacement engine as well? Not to mention the fact that the fuel load needed will be double. :?
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Postby Liability » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:00 pm

Well if it was built in space peice by piece then weight or size would be errelevant wouldn't it? :?

Fair enough point with the fuel...not much can be said till we find an infinatate source :lol:
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Postby seffy » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:36 pm

Liability wrote:Well if it was built in space peice by piece then weight or size would be errelevant wouldn't it? :?


No, of course not. An iceburg floats in the sea. If you jumped in next to it, could you push it? It's the same thing in space. Mass=weight. The more mass you have, the more weight you have and the more thrust you need to move it. This is demonstrated in Einstein's E=MC2 equation and is why he said that we will never achieve light speed.
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Postby Kaldrin » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:23 am

seffy wrote:
Liability wrote:Well if it was built in space peice by piece then weight or size would be errelevant wouldn't it? :?


No, of course not. An iceburg floats in the sea. If you jumped in next to it, could you push it? It's the same thing in space. Mass=weight. The more mass you have, the more weight you have and the more thrust you need to move it. This is demonstrated in Einstein's E=MC2 equation and is why he said that we will never achieve light speed.


I had to jump in and nitpik a bit... Mass doesn't equal weight. Mass is the measure of the amount of matter an object has where weight is the affect of gravity on the object. Technically speaking they do weigh less, but retain their mass. In other words they have the same measure of inertia as they would on earth's surface.

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